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Lowering Blocks
« on: February 11, 2010, 09:58:15 PM »

Anyone know where I can find lowering blocks with u bolts narrow enough for the Mustang II 8 inch? All the kits I've found have U bolts that are too wide. Also I'm trying to lower the front on my 73 wagon. About how much can u cut from the stock front coils and how much will it lower it? I would appreciate any assistance.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 12:25:25 AM »

U-bolts (thanks for the reminder!).  Many spring shops also make u-bolts, like this local (to me) company): http://www.benzspring.com/parts/ubolts/.  Suggest you check locally first.

Front springs: (mine's already lowered by PO), I'd cut 1 coil, reassemble (it's really easy), check height, then cut 1/2 coil at a time to get the desired height.

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Re: Lowering Blocks
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 12:27:26 PM »

I am going 2" drop spindles.  something I have learned from speedway is that if you use droppe spindles then you need longer brake lines as they will not clear.
jim

PS  Might cut a coil, just don't know yet.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 12:43:26 PM »

The problem with 2" dropped spindles is that it rotates the brake caliper into such a position that it is difficult to bleed using "normal, driveway" techniques, i.e., the bleeder is no longer at the highest point.

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Re: Lowering Blocks
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 08:34:24 PM »

Lowering the car might make it look the way you want it to, but its not always going to make the car handle better.  Lowering blocks will make it handle worse (can dramaticliy increase roll-steer).


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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 11:26:35 AM »

The problem with 2" dropped spindles is that it rotates the brake caliper into such a position that it is difficult to bleed using "normal, driveway" techniques, i.e., the bleeder is no longer at the highest point.

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Mike,
Can you give me anymore info on this???  I believe that is why they say you need to use longer brake lines which by the way will be stainless  braided.

thanks
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 12:17:38 PM »

I've installed 35-40 Mustang II IFS's into early cars.  The brand that I prefer drops the car to an especially nice level.  Occasionally customer requirements forced me to use a different brand and then dropped spindles.

Bleeding was never a major problem.  Use a MityVac or unbolt the caliper and move it so that the bleeder is topmost.

I've never explored the geometry that makes it necessary, but every dropped spindle that I've seen rotates the caliper

Standard spindle:



2" dropped spindle:


pics from speedwaymotors.com

Note the rotation of the mounting bolt holes.

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 02:56:02 PM »

Oh, and when going to 11" disc brakes, I very much prefer part# AU-2045 (regular spindles) or AU-2045H (dropped) from Chassis Engineering (the street rod C.H., not the roundy-round C.H.) here: http://www.chassisengineeringinc.com/page79.html because it allows you to use Ford calipers and not the GM metric calipers that all the other kits require.

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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 05:11:47 PM »

yeah i see the rotation deal.  I am going to use all stock parts so do you recommend the Street rod CH spindals from chassis engineering.  do the recommend the longer brake lines???  i appreciate the advice as i got my tax refund and i am ready to buy.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 05:32:33 PM »

I went to Ce and they really wern't much help as they wanted to sell me the 11" brake kit.  i want to use my original 9
' brake setup....  sooooany help would be appreciated.  I HAD PLANNED TO GO TO SPEEDWAY TO BUY THE DROPPED SPINDLES BUT IF THERE IS A BETTER SET THEN I WOUILD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT....OOps sorry about the cap locks.  need it right but at the best price.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 08:08:23 PM »

I'm "pretty" sure that the stock 9" stuff fits the dropped spindles.  Speedwaymotors has a techline that is supposed to be knowledgable - give 'em a call.

Brake hoses.  I never wrote down any of the hoses that I've used.  Normally, I just take a stock one to a real parts store - you know, the one that delivers parts to the auto repair shops - and ask them for one that is x inches long.  It's always worked.  Another option is to go to a hydraulics shop.  Hoses that I've had made have been cheaper than the equivalent store-bought piece.

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Re: Lowering Blocks
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 07:42:19 AM »

Thanks for the help.  Speedway has been a good place to buy for me and my friends so I think i will go to them and get the spidles and their advice.

thanks again. wave
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